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GrekДата: Четверг, 10.03.2011, 19:51 | Сообщение # 1
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Интересная стратегия и довольно популярная. Риски ограниченны, что уже неплохо. smile Обычно применяют перед квартальными отчетами, релизом важных новостей. Также используют на очень волатильных рынках. Главная цель трейдера, чтобы базовый актив выстрелил и не важно, в какую сторону. Чем сильнее ход, тем больше прибыль.
 
oneneoДата: Воскресенье, 13.03.2011, 23:37 | Сообщение # 2
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Небезызвестный Н.Талеб этим только и занимается biggrin .
Кстати, кто нить более детально знает его стратегию?
Кроме того что он покупает опционы Очень далеко без денег и покупает их тоннами.
 
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Небезызвестный Н.Талеб этим только и занимается .
Кстати, кто нить более детально знает его стратегию?
Кроме того что он покупает опционы Очень далеко без денег и покупает их тоннами.

Вряд ли сам Талеб об этом будет распространяться. angry
Но кстати его успехи за 2010 скорее скормные ввиду низкой волатильности рынка, а вот 2011 его год

 
Roman_AgromovichДата: Вторник, 15.03.2011, 01:59 | Сообщение # 4
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Здравствуйте. Скажите, пожалуйста, существует ли на русском языке книга Талеба Dynamic Hedging?
 
GrekДата: Среда, 16.03.2011, 15:44 | Сообщение # 5
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Мне лично на русском не встречалась, если увижу скину ссылку.
 
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Как насчет длинного стренгла 13BuyCall/14Sellput апрель по BAC? 15 числа на премаркете квартальный отчет.
 
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Как насчет длинного стренгла 13BuyCall/14Sellput апрель по BAC? 15 числа на премаркете квартальный отчет.

Здравствуйте !

Посмотрел на OptionVue.

Конечно программа дура smile и она не учитывает то, что у кампании завтра отчет, но все же кое какую инфу получить можно, а именно:

1) Для прибыли в 25% нужен ход вниз примерно на 0.8 - 1$ (цена сегодня - 13.3$ ) с учетом роста волатильности но 5% (если вниз должна вырости, если вверх - то упадет). Для BAC (не надо забывать, что это Bank of America Corporation - ключевая организация для американской экономики) - это ход в 7,5%. Многовато учитывая, что мега волатильные времена для фин сектора миновали.

2) Если вверх пойдет, то рывок еще сильнее должен быть.

Как вариант - построить стреддл с уклоном вниз: buy 14put\call.

Здесь, если вниз то хода на 2-3% для прибыли хватит.

А еще проще 14put купить. smile

Во общем такое мнение.

 
podill1Дата: Пятница, 22.04.2011, 12:29 | Сообщение # 8
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В єтом видео http://www.youtube.com/user/option2020#p/u/7/vat0nMCYUDo Вы сначала открыли простой календарь "at the money" и у Вас получились точки без-убыточности(Б/У) 771.74 и 862.70, т.е. этот календарь у Вас перекрывает зону 90.96. А вот у меня совсем не так гладко: текущая цена RUTi 845, открываю ближний месяц КОЛЛ -1 и дальний +1 на страйке 840 и волотильность соответственно 15.1% и 18.5%, и получается очень сромный результат: точки Б/У 830 и 852, итого перекрывает только 22 фигуры(это почти в 4.5 раза меньше) и это при том, что в "slippage" я выставил "none". У меня тоже option vue6, но только демо-платформа. И это происходит(очень малая зона перекрытия календарём) на многих других активах.
Подскажите пожалуйста, почему так происходит. Спасибо.
 
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В єтом видео http://www.youtube.com/user/option2020#p/u/7/vat0nMCYUDo Вы сначала открыли простой календарь "at the money" и у Вас получились точки без-убыточности(Б/У) 771.74 и 862.70, т.е. этот календарь у Вас перекрывает зону 90.96. А вот у меня совсем не так гладко: текущая цена RUTi 845, открываю ближний месяц КОЛЛ -1 и дальний +1 на страйке 840 и волотильность соответственно 15.1% и 18.5%, и получается очень сромный результат: точки Б/У 830 и 852, итого перекрывает только 22 фигуры(это почти в 4.5 раза меньше) и это при том, что в "slippage" я выставил "none". У меня тоже option vue6, но только демо-платформа. И это происходит(очень малая зона перекрытия календарём) на многих других активах.
Подскажите пожалуйста, почему так происходит. Спасибо.

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